Comments on: 7 Flu Tips for Stubborn Employees http://inflexionadvisors.com/blog/2009/10/15/7-flu-tips-for-stubborn-employees/ Changing HR one post at a time. Thu, 02 Feb 2012 09:28:06 +0000 hourly 1 By: how to get rid of co http://inflexionadvisors.com/blog/2009/10/15/7-flu-tips-for-stubborn-employees/comment-page-1/#comment-34531 how to get rid of co Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:03:46 +0000 http://www.inflexionadvisors.com/blog/?p=200#comment-34531 Very interesting. I'd like to share an interesting quote about health. “A man too busy to take care of his health is like a mechanic too busy to take care of his tools.” Very interesting. I’d like to share an interesting quote about health. “A man too busy to take care of his health is like a mechanic too busy to take care of his tools.”

]]> By: Sick At Work | why do employees come to work sick? — hr bartender http://inflexionadvisors.com/blog/2009/10/15/7-flu-tips-for-stubborn-employees/comment-page-1/#comment-21135 Sick At Work | why do employees come to work sick? — hr bartender Tue, 05 Jan 2010 19:08:28 +0000 http://www.inflexionadvisors.com/blog/?p=200#comment-21135 [...] colleagues have written about the flu and going to work sick.  You can read a couple of them here and here.  But, that’s not the focus of today’s post.  I’d like to think any reasonably [...] [...] colleagues have written about the flu and going to work sick.  You can read a couple of them here and here.  But, that’s not the focus of today’s post.  I’d like to think any reasonably [...]

]]> By: Being Sick | HRM Today http://inflexionadvisors.com/blog/2009/10/15/7-flu-tips-for-stubborn-employees/comment-page-1/#comment-20673 Being Sick | HRM Today Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:57:26 +0000 http://www.inflexionadvisors.com/blog/?p=200#comment-20673 [...] colleagues have written about the flu and going to work sick.  You can read a couple of them here and here.  But, that’s not the focus of today’s post.  I’d like to think any reasonably [...] [...] colleagues have written about the flu and going to work sick.  You can read a couple of them here and here.  But, that’s not the focus of today’s post.  I’d like to think any reasonably [...]

]]> By: M. LaFleur http://inflexionadvisors.com/blog/2009/10/15/7-flu-tips-for-stubborn-employees/comment-page-1/#comment-18285 M. LaFleur Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:48:38 +0000 http://www.inflexionadvisors.com/blog/?p=200#comment-18285 The company I work at is now requiring all employees to wear surgical masks at work. We look like a staff of Michael Jacksons minus the glove. It's rediculous that HR makes us go to such silly lengths when there have been NO cases of h1n1 in the building. @ Tom T: Right on, brother. @Lonnie L: agree that it's waaaay OVERHYPED @Shannon F: Have you been smokin crack? Everybody knows that Bush started all kinds of sh*t, probably even swine flu. Just wait until longhorn flu comes around. Bad sh*t I tell ya. The company I work at is now requiring all employees to wear surgical masks at work. We look like a staff of Michael Jacksons minus the glove. It’s rediculous that HR makes us go to such silly lengths when there have been NO cases of h1n1 in the building.

@ Tom T: Right on, brother.

@Lonnie L: agree that it’s waaaay OVERHYPED

@Shannon F: Have you been smokin crack? Everybody knows that Bush started all kinds of sh*t, probably even swine flu. Just wait until longhorn flu comes around. Bad sh*t I tell ya.

]]> By: Sue http://inflexionadvisors.com/blog/2009/10/15/7-flu-tips-for-stubborn-employees/comment-page-1/#comment-18017 Sue Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:11:49 +0000 http://www.inflexionadvisors.com/blog/?p=200#comment-18017 I must admit, I get more than a little annoyed at people who stay home at the first sign of a sneeze...because I'm one of the ones who will get stuck working 12 hour shifts doing their work to meet their deadlines...and working all weekend to get my own work done. High fever...stay home. Head cold...suck it up and be an adult. Take precautions against spreading your cooties, and stay away from others, but don't expect your coworkers to jump for joy that you thought of them first (because you didn't). What makes you think the person who used the shopping cart before you wasn't typhoid Mary? Or the person who used the gas pump just before you got there? Face it...you'll be exposed to microbial menaces all day long. I must admit, I get more than a little annoyed at people who stay home at the first sign of a sneeze…because I’m one of the ones who will get stuck working 12 hour shifts doing their work to meet their deadlines…and working all weekend to get my own work done.

High fever…stay home. Head cold…suck it up and be an adult. Take precautions against spreading your cooties, and stay away from others, but don’t expect your coworkers to jump for joy that you thought of them first (because you didn’t). What makes you think the person who used the shopping cart before you wasn’t typhoid Mary? Or the person who used the gas pump just before you got there? Face it…you’ll be exposed to microbial menaces all day long.

]]> By: mark.stelzner http://inflexionadvisors.com/blog/2009/10/15/7-flu-tips-for-stubborn-employees/comment-page-1/#comment-17987 mark.stelzner Tue, 20 Oct 2009 21:04:48 +0000 http://www.inflexionadvisors.com/blog/?p=200#comment-17987 @Really - Ok, you caught me. By "friends" I meant "lab rats", 'cause let's be honest, people that work as much as I do don't have real friends. The real question is how I had time to write this blog post in the first place. Obviously I don't take my own advice. Thanks for policing this issue. :) @Really – Ok, you caught me. By “friends” I meant “lab rats”, ’cause let’s be honest, people that work as much as I do don’t have real friends. The real question is how I had time to write this blog post in the first place. Obviously I don’t take my own advice. Thanks for policing this issue. :)

]]> By: Really, mark.stelzner??? http://inflexionadvisors.com/blog/2009/10/15/7-flu-tips-for-stubborn-employees/comment-page-1/#comment-17986 Really, mark.stelzner??? Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:57:57 +0000 http://www.inflexionadvisors.com/blog/?p=200#comment-17986 Do you really have friends at the CDC? And, if you're working 80-100 hours/week, how do you have time to write such a lengthy reply? Mmmm. Makes me wonder... @Alice: agree with you 100% sister! Do you really have friends at the CDC? And, if you’re working 80-100 hours/week, how do you have time to write such a lengthy reply? Mmmm. Makes me wonder…

@Alice: agree with you 100% sister!

]]> By: mark.stelzner http://inflexionadvisors.com/blog/2009/10/15/7-flu-tips-for-stubborn-employees/comment-page-1/#comment-17969 mark.stelzner Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:57:55 +0000 http://www.inflexionadvisors.com/blog/?p=200#comment-17969 @Trish McFarlane - Great tip. Nothing like a Soother in a hot shower! @QA - Not familiar with the "PTO scam" despite my sufficient expertise in the HR industry. I agree that the flu can wipe out your balance, but I'd also suspect that most employers would rather you stay home now and may be more reasonable given H1N1. Worth a conversation with HR. @Leanne Chase - Thanks Leanne. Employers need to be prepared for the loss of productivity and demonstrate more flexibility given this unique animal of a virus. @Ellen Rossano - Terrific tips and thank you for the well wishes. :) @Donna - Agree 100% here Donna! @Alice - Codependency on the "low man" may be a good topic for another post. Stay home. Get well. The rest will survive. @Kari Quaas - I hear ya. The shower does wonders. Glad to have you back at full strength! @Dani - That's awesome Dani, and way to be sensitive to the coworkers with less-than-stellar immune systems. Sounds like a very good culture. @Mary - It is part of social responsibility. Your friend's conference badge should have a skull and crossbones on it. :) @Lefty Louie - A-wipes they are. Great comment, thanks. @Lonnie L - Definitely didn't read sarcasm in your first message (loud and clear in the second) so I was ready to blast you as well. However, as a fan of sarcasm you went sufficiently overboard to negate the issue in your last comment. That being said, I don't think the media is overhyping this. It's just getting started and my friends at the CDC are sufficiently worried to make me believe this is real and getting worse. @Disagree w/ Lonnie L - Nice name choice. :) I personally like the "error on the side of caution" tone here. Can't really hurt us to be courteous and wash our frickin' hands, right? @Shannon F - Wow. Um. Not sure what to comment on first. Maybe you're being sarcastic too, but somehow I doubt it. Let me just comment on the "lazy sick people" portion 'cause apparently I'm one of them. I work 80-100 hours per week so I don't think it's "lazy" to take care of yourself and stop the spread of disease, and I certainly don't believe that being sick with H1N1 is why your job might get outsourced to China. There's a lot of misdirected anger in your one tiny little comment Shannon. @Tom T - Agree with one half and disagree with the other half of your statement (I won't say which half...it's more fun that way). I do think that you and others are tapping into a general sense of, "...but I can't afford to call in sick". Employers really need to think about how they're going to treat this illness as a unique circumstance that requires a loosening of policy. Otherwise employees will come in sick and take down a high percentage of the workforce in the process. In that case, everyone loses. Thanks Tom. @Trish McFarlane – Great tip. Nothing like a Soother in a hot shower!

@QA – Not familiar with the “PTO scam” despite my sufficient expertise in the HR industry. I agree that the flu can wipe out your balance, but I’d also suspect that most employers would rather you stay home now and may be more reasonable given H1N1. Worth a conversation with HR.

@Leanne Chase – Thanks Leanne. Employers need to be prepared for the loss of productivity and demonstrate more flexibility given this unique animal of a virus.

@Ellen Rossano – Terrific tips and thank you for the well wishes. :)

@Donna – Agree 100% here Donna!

@Alice – Codependency on the “low man” may be a good topic for another post. Stay home. Get well. The rest will survive.

@Kari Quaas – I hear ya. The shower does wonders. Glad to have you back at full strength!

@Dani – That’s awesome Dani, and way to be sensitive to the coworkers with less-than-stellar immune systems. Sounds like a very good culture.

@Mary – It is part of social responsibility. Your friend’s conference badge should have a skull and crossbones on it. :)

@Lefty Louie – A-wipes they are. Great comment, thanks.

@Lonnie L – Definitely didn’t read sarcasm in your first message (loud and clear in the second) so I was ready to blast you as well. However, as a fan of sarcasm you went sufficiently overboard to negate the issue in your last comment. That being said, I don’t think the media is overhyping this. It’s just getting started and my friends at the CDC are sufficiently worried to make me believe this is real and getting worse.

@Disagree w/ Lonnie L – Nice name choice. :) I personally like the “error on the side of caution” tone here. Can’t really hurt us to be courteous and wash our frickin’ hands, right?

@Shannon F – Wow. Um. Not sure what to comment on first. Maybe you’re being sarcastic too, but somehow I doubt it. Let me just comment on the “lazy sick people” portion ’cause apparently I’m one of them. I work 80-100 hours per week so I don’t think it’s “lazy” to take care of yourself and stop the spread of disease, and I certainly don’t believe that being sick with H1N1 is why your job might get outsourced to China. There’s a lot of misdirected anger in your one tiny little comment Shannon.

@Tom T – Agree with one half and disagree with the other half of your statement (I won’t say which half…it’s more fun that way). I do think that you and others are tapping into a general sense of, “…but I can’t afford to call in sick”. Employers really need to think about how they’re going to treat this illness as a unique circumstance that requires a loosening of policy. Otherwise employees will come in sick and take down a high percentage of the workforce in the process. In that case, everyone loses. Thanks Tom.

]]> By: Lonnie L. http://inflexionadvisors.com/blog/2009/10/15/7-flu-tips-for-stubborn-employees/comment-page-1/#comment-17966 Lonnie L. Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:51:25 +0000 http://www.inflexionadvisors.com/blog/?p=200#comment-17966 Lighten up, Francis! "It's because of people like me that epidemics are started"? Yes, I admit it, I started N1H1 (I much prefer my original name "Swine Flu") and set out on my personal jet to globe-trot and infect everyone on the planet. Now you are on to my maniacal scheme for world domination. Rats! I would've gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids! Has everyone forgotten about West Nile or SARS? N1H2 is overhyped by the media (sorry, I'm starting to should like that crazy ShannonF) and given time and proper measures it will burn itself out. BTW, I work from home. I guess some people do not understand sarcasm. Lighten up, Francis! “It’s because of people like me that epidemics are started”? Yes, I admit it, I started N1H1 (I much prefer my original name “Swine Flu”) and set out on my personal jet to globe-trot and infect everyone on the planet. Now you are on to my maniacal scheme for world domination. Rats! I would’ve gotten away with it if it weren’t for you meddling kids! Has everyone forgotten about West Nile or SARS? N1H2 is overhyped by the media (sorry, I’m starting to should like that crazy ShannonF) and given time and proper measures it will burn itself out.

BTW, I work from home. I guess some people do not understand sarcasm.

]]> By: Tom T http://inflexionadvisors.com/blog/2009/10/15/7-flu-tips-for-stubborn-employees/comment-page-1/#comment-17965 Tom T Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:47:33 +0000 http://www.inflexionadvisors.com/blog/?p=200#comment-17965 I agree with the earlier poster regarding Paid Time Off (PTO) contributing to this. When I worked for a company that instituted this "progressive" policy, I said the heck with it, I'm coming in if I'm sick; why waste a "vacation" day when I feel bad. Lately, I've had the good fortune to work for government outfits that give you TWELVE sick days a year, and you can accumulate them forever. It's a true win-win...I don't use them for "mental health" days, preferring to save them up as insurance against something like a car accident, or major sickness (like H1N1), but when I realize I have weeks of sick time banked, I'm much, much more likely to take a couple days off when I'm feeling under the weather. PTO was instituted because of short-sighted bean counters, and managers who won't take the responsibility to manage their people and cut down on the abuse of sick time that PTO was supposed to cure. Treat your people how you want them to treat your best customers AND their fellow employees! I agree with the earlier poster regarding Paid Time Off (PTO) contributing to this. When I worked for a company that instituted this “progressive” policy, I said the heck with it, I’m coming in if I’m sick; why waste a “vacation” day when I feel bad. Lately, I’ve had the good fortune to work for government outfits that give you TWELVE sick days a year, and you can accumulate them forever. It’s a true win-win…I don’t use them for “mental health” days, preferring to save them up as insurance against something like a car accident, or major sickness (like H1N1), but when I realize I have weeks of sick time banked, I’m much, much more likely to take a couple days off when I’m feeling under the weather. PTO was instituted because of short-sighted bean counters, and managers who won’t take the responsibility to manage their people and cut down on the abuse of sick time that PTO was supposed to cure. Treat your people how you want them to treat your best customers AND their fellow employees!

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