Comments on: Talent Management – The Swine Flu of HR http://inflexionadvisors.com/blog/2009/04/30/talent-management-the-swine-flu-of-hr/ Changing HR one post at a time. Tue, 24 Apr 2012 16:05:58 +0000 hourly 1 By: Inflexion Point » Blog Archive » Chicago, Shootouts and Stelzner: HR Tech 2009 http://inflexionadvisors.com/blog/2009/04/30/talent-management-the-swine-flu-of-hr/comment-page-1/#comment-15670 Inflexion Point » Blog Archive » Chicago, Shootouts and Stelzner: HR Tech 2009 Wed, 05 Aug 2009 00:01:16 +0000 http://www.inflexionadvisors.com/blog/?p=168#comment-15670 [...] and Salary.com go toe-to-toe against SAP and Lawson in the Talent Management Shootout. Although I don’t like the term Talent Management, I’ll still go for the sheer thrill of application engineers and consultants running like [...] [...] and Salary.com go toe-to-toe against SAP and Lawson in the Talent Management Shootout. Although I don’t like the term Talent Management, I’ll still go for the sheer thrill of application engineers and consultants running like [...]

]]> By: Flu Mask http://inflexionadvisors.com/blog/2009/04/30/talent-management-the-swine-flu-of-hr/comment-page-1/#comment-15030 Flu Mask Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:54:17 +0000 http://www.inflexionadvisors.com/blog/?p=168#comment-15030 Are you talking about "HR" or "Human Resources?" Are you talking about “HR” or “Human Resources?”

]]> By: How To Prevent Flu http://inflexionadvisors.com/blog/2009/04/30/talent-management-the-swine-flu-of-hr/comment-page-1/#comment-14862 How To Prevent Flu Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:19:41 +0000 http://www.inflexionadvisors.com/blog/?p=168#comment-14862 I'm not really sure I'd agree with this comparison, either. Obviously HR is going to develop language trends - that's how proper marketing works. I don't know if you can really compare it to a global pandemic. I’m not really sure I’d agree with this comparison, either. Obviously HR is going to develop language trends – that’s how proper marketing works. I don’t know if you can really compare it to a global pandemic.

]]> By: mark.stelzner http://inflexionadvisors.com/blog/2009/04/30/talent-management-the-swine-flu-of-hr/comment-page-1/#comment-12163 mark.stelzner Mon, 04 May 2009 13:26:05 +0000 http://www.inflexionadvisors.com/blog/?p=168#comment-12163 @Rick Lee - I think we all have suffered under the reign of a semantic monarchy in one way or another. How do we break free (more committees??)? :) @Lisa Rowan - Although we may differ here, I do appreciate the opinion. @Chris Bailey - Ugh...thank you for making my point Chris. Flame on!! @HR Minion - I take that as quite the compliment from a freshly minted PHR such as yourself! *grin* @Rick Lee – I think we all have suffered under the reign of a semantic monarchy in one way or another. How do we break free (more committees??)? :)

@Lisa Rowan – Although we may differ here, I do appreciate the opinion.

@Chris Bailey – Ugh…thank you for making my point Chris. Flame on!!

@HR Minion – I take that as quite the compliment from a freshly minted PHR such as yourself! *grin*

]]> By: HR Minion http://inflexionadvisors.com/blog/2009/04/30/talent-management-the-swine-flu-of-hr/comment-page-1/#comment-12128 HR Minion Sun, 03 May 2009 19:28:33 +0000 http://www.inflexionadvisors.com/blog/?p=168#comment-12128 Very nicely done! :) Very nicely done! :)

]]> By: Chris Bailey http://inflexionadvisors.com/blog/2009/04/30/talent-management-the-swine-flu-of-hr/comment-page-1/#comment-12010 Chris Bailey Fri, 01 May 2009 01:38:44 +0000 http://www.inflexionadvisors.com/blog/?p=168#comment-12010 Well, Mark, if that got your knickers in a twist, you'll probably just love this definition courtesy of ASTD: "Developing consensus on a valid definition of talent management was a priority for ASTD because past research has revealed that common, agreed-upon definitions are scarce. After considerable review by a panel of experts, the following definition was adopted: a holistic approach to optimizing human capital, which enables an organization to drive short- and long-term results by building culture, engagement, capability, and capacity through integrated talent acquisition, development, and deployment processes that are aligned to business goals." And now for my unsolicited opinions: A. It took a panel of experts to conjure this mess into existence? Egads! B. If they added just one more nebulous term to the definition, I would likely have won my buzzword bingo league. C. I still don't know what they hell this definition means. Nothing like a bunch of stuffed shirts sucking all the joy out of something by beating it senseless with silly language. My friend, if you're going down in flames, I'll come along for the ride. Well, Mark, if that got your knickers in a twist, you’ll probably just love this definition courtesy of ASTD:

“Developing consensus on a valid definition of talent management was a priority for ASTD because past research has revealed that common, agreed-upon definitions are scarce. After considerable review by a panel of experts, the following definition was adopted: a holistic approach to optimizing human capital, which enables an organization to drive short- and long-term results by building culture, engagement, capability, and capacity through integrated talent acquisition, development, and deployment processes that are aligned to business goals.”

And now for my unsolicited opinions:
A. It took a panel of experts to conjure this mess into existence? Egads!
B. If they added just one more nebulous term to the definition, I would likely have won my buzzword bingo league.
C. I still don’t know what they hell this definition means. Nothing like a bunch of stuffed shirts sucking all the joy out of something by beating it senseless with silly language.

My friend, if you’re going down in flames, I’ll come along for the ride.

]]> By: Lisa Rowan http://inflexionadvisors.com/blog/2009/04/30/talent-management-the-swine-flu-of-hr/comment-page-1/#comment-11999 Lisa Rowan Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:01:23 +0000 http://www.inflexionadvisors.com/blog/?p=168#comment-11999 While the point about jargon being bandied about might be a cogent one, the post is ruined in my view to the comparison to a disease which has killed people in Mexico and one infant in the US. This isn't funny stuff. While the point about jargon being bandied about might be a cogent one, the post is ruined in my view to the comparison to a disease which has killed people in Mexico and one infant in the US. This isn’t funny stuff.

]]> By: Rick Lee http://inflexionadvisors.com/blog/2009/04/30/talent-management-the-swine-flu-of-hr/comment-page-1/#comment-11998 Rick Lee Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:01:04 +0000 http://www.inflexionadvisors.com/blog/?p=168#comment-11998 Splendid confirmation that all that is generated from Madison Avenue is not gold. In addition to the obnoxious term, "talent management," we also have suffered through some other doozies that convey a meaning and approach that is highly offensive to users. For instance, there is "managed care," "disease management," and "psychiatric fill-in-the-blank." When consumers (rather than PATIENTS) hear these terms, they run for the exits. This is precisely why Reagan's first OMB Director, David Stockman, referred to "revenue enhancements" when discussing taxes. It's the meaning, not the word that matters. If we could just get some smart people to form a committee -- no, no, just kidding -- and rule on category/movement titles before they fall into the everyday vernacular, then we wouldn't be having these kinds of problems. Splendid confirmation that all that is generated from Madison Avenue is not gold. In addition to the obnoxious term, “talent management,” we also have suffered through some other doozies that convey a meaning and approach that is highly offensive to users. For instance, there is “managed care,” “disease management,” and “psychiatric fill-in-the-blank.” When consumers (rather than PATIENTS) hear these terms, they run for the exits. This is precisely why Reagan’s first OMB Director, David Stockman, referred to “revenue enhancements” when discussing taxes. It’s the meaning, not the word that matters. If we could just get some smart people to form a committee — no, no, just kidding — and rule on category/movement titles before they fall into the everyday vernacular, then we wouldn’t be having these kinds of problems.

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